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On the other hand, sometimes dress-up is fun!

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Size Chart Woes: Fun With Math!

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Size Chart Woes: The Naked Truth About Bra Sizes

Of all the sizes in sizeland, none is more thoroughly misunderstood than bra size. To hear Oprah tell it, 114% of women are wearing the wrong bra size. You can’t beat Vicky’s tape measures off with a stick. Even Jezebel seems to be up in boobs about bra “vanity sizing” and everybody’s got jokes. (Why, yes, there’s nothing at all disturbing– or laughably illogical– about demanding a woman of a certain size “get a reduction,” but asserting that the boobs of a woman just one size smaller can only be the result of an augmentation.)

Okay, folks, in the interest of demystifying the whole business, I’m about to let you in on a little secret. A little secret that even I– a woman who has been reading fashion magazines since she was in an A cup*– was not aware of until just a few months ago. You may be privy to this secret. If so, please sit quietly and do not spoil it for the rest of the class.

(Have I said “secret” enough? The Oprah references flow like Spanx and Garrett’s Popcorn**.)

But before I reveal The Secret©, a little quiz. Everybody loves a quiz! Especially a quiz full of leading questions!

Question #1: Which of these bras is bigger in cup size?

Bra Set #1

Bra Set #1

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Snapshot: Size Charts For The Lose, Part 278624

Yeah, so, we’ve been through this before.

According to Gap’s Size Chart, and my measurements, I am (boy, this sounds familiar): a size 10 in the waist, 14 in the bust, and a 14-16 in the hips.

denim-skirt

That would be your size 6, with all that extra room in the waist.  The size 4— supposedly designed for someone with hips 7 inches smaller than mine– was a better fit.

Of all the questions Deep Seam answered, there’s one that’s still plaguing me.  I understand now why sizing is so inconsistent, but why is it so consistent?  Consistently off, by about 4-6 sizes.  At least when it comes to my body and major retailers.  Hmmm…  The plot thickens…  The quest for truth continues…

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It’s an Ann Taylor Loft kind of day.

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  • Leopard print wool cardigan from Ann Taylor Loft– $15 on sale, with coupon
  • Pink sleeveless shell with bow detail from ATL— $10 on sale, with coupon
  • ATL Curvy Bootcut Jeans– $20 on sale
  • Black “Rain Crop” flats by Aerosoles– $19.99 on sale
  • Black and onyx necklace, a gift from my sister-in-law

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Size Chart Woes, Part III– Revenge of the Stitch

We rejoin our Top Secret Debriefing (Hahaha, DE-BRIEFING, Get it?), already in progress…

Michelle: So, looking back at my Ann Taylor Loft adventure, what would you say is the primary problem (or problems)? Shouldn’t an ATL shopper expect a Size 4/6/8 (in particular) to match up well with the measurements listed on the size chart?

Deep Seam: Well, without actually speccing (laying it flat and actually taking all of the relevant measurements) the garment myself, I couldn’t say for sure, but it seems clear there’s a massive disparity between their size charts and the actual specs of the garments (which I find common, actually, in my own shopping efforts).

A thorough spec sheet should specify measurements both when the garment is loose and when it’s stretched, and a thorough plant manager at the sweatshop/factory should enforce those specs to the letter. Problems here could have started with the drafting, and continued all the way through patternmaking, grading, cutting, speccing, and sewing. Like I said, all those fractions of an inch add up really fast!

Seems most likely, though, that the company has a standardized size chart, which the designer, patternmaker, and/or grader did not adhere to when producing the garment. I think this is very common. And very frustrating.
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Size Chart Woes, Part II

(Check out Part I– in which I am cruelly mocked by a dress– here.)

In my efforts to enlighten the general public (and myself, why not) about the Sorry State of Size Charts, I met a recent graduate from a prominent fashion design school– we’ll call her “Deep Seam”– in a dimly-lit parking garage. Deftly and journalistically and with a Dustin Hoffman ’70’s-era shag, I coaxed from her the truth about the fashion industrial complex. The transcript of our meeting begins as follows:

Deep Seam: Have I explained the evil magic of grade rules to you yet? They are the reason that A) no two brands (or even items in the same line) have consistent sizing, and B) nothing nothing nothing fits bodies like ours*.

As much as I detest math, if I ever do a line of clothes for curvy ladies, as I would luh-huh-huve to do someday, I will spend months perfecting my custom grade rules, so that the sizes in my line scale the same way real bodies do, and not according to some arbitrary fantasy fractional gradation.

Michelle: Tell me more about grade rules. I was under the impression that most clothing lines hire a Size 6 or 8 “fit model” with the shape that they are looking for, and then size up and down from her measurements. Do grade rules have something to do with that?

Deep Seam: Well, fit models don’t usually come in until much later in the process.
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Size Chart Woes

A few of you have asked me why it is, what with my constant Internetting, I don’t order more of my clothes online. Why do I sort through racks of scratch’n’dent clothes at Filene’s Basement when I could be sorting from the comfort of my own clicky mouse finger?

The answer? Size charts.

Faulty, ridiculous, confusing size charts that exist on a plane that does not intersect with earth reality.

No one would be foolhardy enough to guess her dress size when ordering from an unfamiliar site or designer, or to estimate it based on what is in her closet (Ha!), so most folks recommend you take your measurements and compare them to the often impossible to find handy-dandy size chart. Sadly, even if you’ve memorized the length of your index finger and the curvature of your inner ear, if the size chart is broke, you can’t fix it.

To wit, a Cautionary Tale.

If you are a regular reader, you know that I am an Ann Taylor Loft stan. Viva La Loft (and their coupons)! Thus, and even given my slowly decreasing weight, I have a pretty good idea of my size there (adjusted, of course, for how tailored the garment, and how stretchy the fabric).

For the record, I am using ATL as an example, but they are far, FAR from the worst offender in this regard.

To demonstrate the problem with size charts, I used this dress, ’cause it’s totally up my alley. Let’s pretend that I have never shopped at ATL before, and have decided to order online.

U-Neck Dress with Belt

U-Neck Dress with Belt

On the day in question, my measurements (taken according to ATL’s instructions) were:

  • 40″ Bust
  • 29.5″ Waist
  • 44″ Hips

Let’s take a look at the size chart, shall we?

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Yet another unseasonably-warm weather dress…

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  • Teal knit jersey dress with self belt from Gap— $9.99 on clearance
  • Comfy rubber-soled and -heeled shoes from Aerosoles— $29.99 on sale
  • Blue stone necklace from La Loft— $12 on sale

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